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About baby lashes??? I have nearly always rooted them on sleeping babies (remember I have been reborning before we rooted hair) ..but on the awake ones..I have just more recently been doing that.
I can line those lashes up like little tin soldiers...I have wet them and "stuck' them to the area above the eye and let dry overnight before trimming, I have used a hair drying to blow them upward...but at the end of the day..they just do not have the fullness and the upward sweep that my grandaughters' lashes have...honestly ..the glue-on type look more like their lashes! soooo...
COLLECTORS! how important are the ROOTED lashes on awake babies?
In my research it seems the high-ticket babies have rooted lashes (an painted hair)
As a collector... I see more realistic rooted eyelashes than glued ones, of course they are tricky to root nice, but there's lot of nice artists out there that make them perfect!
As long as they are not "spidery" I really have no preference, Beatrix has stuck on lashes and they are perfect for her, I am currently looking for a reborn and the type of lashes will make no difference in my decision as to what baby to buy.
Hope this helps. x
I love the way they look if done very nicely, but I have tried and tried and can't get them in a straight line on the lid or usually even to get them to root at all! The one time I did get some in I used that thick hair gel to stick them to the upper lid and let they dry that way so they would be curled up. What kind of needle is best to get the lashes to root into that little lid well? Also, do you root before putting in the eyes or after? I put my eyes in from inside the head cutting away the socket back. Any advice from you wonderful eyelash rooters?
My reborns with the glued on lashes have lost most of theirs due to them drying out and falling off. The baby looks fine without them. I am so not good at gluing on lashes, my hands shake too much.
Speaking as a collector, not a reborn artist.
nanas newborns wrote:I love the way they look if done very nicely, but I have tried and tried and can't get them in a straight line on the lid or usually even to get them to root at all! The one time I did get some in I used that thick hair gel to stick them to the upper lid and let they dry that way so they would be curled up. What kind of needle is best to get the lashes to root into that little lid well? Also, do you root before putting in the eyes or after? I put my eyes in from inside the head cutting away the socket back. Any advice from you wonderful eyelash rooters?
Personally I use the same needle to root eyelashes that I use to root the head. You can't root eyelashes with the eyes on, you need to root first, seal them and then put the eyes.
I have no preference but the rooted ones need to "look" like real lashes....by that I mean I don't like to see them rooted above the lash line or big holes in the lids, etc.
I have done both! I do usually root them on any reborn but I have a reborn that I am fond of and kept. I have found that her rooted lashes are wearing very thin now and wonder how many of my customers touch their babies eyelashes that are rooted, like the hair, and find them wearing thin.
I was doing rooted eyelashes on closed eyes only but worked very hard to do them in open eyed babies. I can't seem to get them as thick as I'd like them. I can get them to sweep up by leaving them long for one night while wet and a drop of gel on them. The next day they just stay up and open. I trim them and they look very natural. However my worry is that they wear off and customer would rather have glued on lashes.
Some eyelids on the kits are a tad hard to root in the correct space. Those I use applied glued lashes.
Sherry..my problem is..they look good when rooted..nice and even..straight line where they should be on the lid..I wet them with a drop of gel and sweep them up to dry overnight too..but when I trim them..they want to go 12 ways to sunday! different directions! what is up with that?
then I have to work to reshape them...and never really as full as I would like them..but most awake babies with rooted lashes are not real full either that I have seen
since I seal the eyes of my awake babies...it adds extra adhesive to the base of the lashes...have not had a problem with glued on ones coming off..except on playborns
JaNan, maybe you don't root them in a nice angle? to get the lashes up you have to root almost in parallel to the head, like this (Hope the pic serves to you to show the angle of the needle)
pretty much doing that Sylvia...and they look good till i trim them I do root them with the eyes in though..I put the eyes in through the front...so I cant do that after the lashes are rooted
JaNan wrote:pretty much doing that Sylvia...and they look good till i trim them I do root them with the eyes in though..I put the eyes in through the front...so I cant do that after the lashes are rooted
do you mean you root the eyelashes with the eyes put on????
I have tried just once to root the lashes and for me the glued on lashes work the best. If you get too close to the edge of the lid, you take a chunk out of the vinyl and then you have a problem. I always use baby lashes and trim them so that they are a bit shorter. I do not like Dolly Parton eyes~~long and wispy. That along with bright red lips just looks "Dolly" to me. Sometimes I wonder where it will stop with the new techniques of reborning~~~I know I can't keep up and I really don't try to~~~~
yes Sylvia..I root the lashes with the eyes in place..I know they go all the way in because I can feel my needle hit the eye
I feel your pain Judith! I feel the same way..but I really want my art to go to the next level..and really need to get higher sales..so I am really working on all levels trying to improve what I can
...maybe someone out there have a solution to root eyelsahes with eyes on... but from my point of view, if you want to go to the next level and have a better results... you should change that method.. If you open the eye sockets you will have more space to root the eyelashes nice and work around, also seal them in a proper way. Put the eye from the inside of the head is not really difficult either.. Well, is my advice if you would ask me, work comfortable in an area is an important thing to get better results.
Thank you Silvia..I can see what you are saying..and may give it a go next time..I really don't like removing the eye sockets and placing eyes from the inside..they just do not feel as STABLE to me..but that is JMO
Well, about the eyes put from inside... sometimes I help them with a bit of putty to make them more stable, then I seal them, also the half round eyes are just a bit more oval shape and fits betters than rounds even putting them from inside. I also can say you that in my opinion put eyes from the front make in some kits looks like owls because the eye top on the eye socket and makes them pushing out on the eye area. JMO too, but well, on the rooting eyelashes I really think that if you want to improve better results, with the eyes on you can't work nice that area.
JaNan wrote:yes Sylvia..I root the lashes with the eyes in place..I know they go all the way in because I can feel my needle hit the eye
I feel your pain Judith! I feel the same way..but I really want my art to go to the next level..and really need to get higher sales..so I am really working on all levels trying to improve what I can
JaNan I also put the eyes in from the front except for full rounds. I wonder how many that put eyes in from the back have heard about all the complaints from customers that when the dolls are exposed to very hot temperatures (especially shipping to Australia) that the glue softens and lets go? Babies arrive with gaps or develop gaps down the road from the glues letting go. So any dolls I can heat their heads and put in from the front..well to me that is the safest way. We will have to figure out how to root lashes in with eyes in place I guess. I have seen some really really badly rooted in lashes on dolls that sell for lots of money and wonder ...is anything okay as long as it is done by the so called "top reborners?"
seriously that can happends with seal eyes??? I have sealed my eyes and after that bake the head several times to fix some paint or add details and the glue didn't move... I don't think send a baby to Australia (that I have also send some) can take more degrees than a head on the oven, maybe for that ocassions there was not enough glue around the eye socket and eye. At least when I learnt how to seal the eyes the amount of glue recommended was a considerable one to be sure the eye won't fall just for a bit of heat...
I have heard that too Ginny! and I know most use E6000 to glue eyes in when removing sockets because it is strong...well it has a strong odor too that many of my customers do not like . I did a wreath once with E6000 as my main adhesive and when it was exposed to heat..it came apart! not as strong as we want to believe! I guess if I had to have one..I'd rather have unstable eyelashes than unstable eyes..much easier to fix!
(not aiming this at you Silvia..or anyone really..I know you said you use puddy too) just sayin'...
I have nearly always rooted them on sleeping babies (remember I have been reborning before we rooted hair) ..but on the awake ones..I have just more recently been doing that. 
soooo...
I guess if I had to have one..I'd rather have unstable eyelashes than unstable eyes..much easier to fix! 